ALC-JBC Special Language

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You You All right, we'll call this a meeting of special language to order. When I introduce our staff person, Mr. Rice, he'll be helping us and we're going of course going to have a lot of animals come down. Representative Tosh, you got anything to say? No, thank you. Thank you, Chair. I'm good. I appreciate it. Okay. Mr. Rice, do you have anything? I do not. Okay. Ms. Whitt, is that correct? If you want to come down, you'll be recognized to begin the presentation. Thank you, Mr. Chair. First on the agenda is the promotional items. Special language for the Minority Health Commission. It's on page 28. Volume 1 for our members, right? Volume 1 page 28. Yes. This language allows the Chief Fiscal Officer of the state to establish upon request of the Minority Health Commission a special promotional items appropriation to be used in the acquisition of promotional items. It's forwarded by the Commission to the Chief Fiscal Officer and for approval by ALC or JVC. The Commission is requesting that this language which appears in their operations bill be discontinued because it is already codified in Arkansas code and the executive provides for the agency request. The next piece of special language is on page 36. It's also for promotional items and it is identical to the previous item. It is found in their appropriation bill for the Minority Health Initiative and the Minority Health Commission is requesting that this language be discontinued because it is already codified in Arkansas code and the executive also provides for the agency request. That concludes my presentation. Okay, members, you all heard the explanation on this. It's now in code. Do I have a motion to approve? Second. Second. Have a motion. Second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed like sign? That motion will pass. Next one on here is going to be public employee retirement, Mr. Parish. No, you know the drill if you'll just recognize yourself and you can begin. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Billy Parish, Bureau of Legislative Research. We're on page 65. This is the Judges Retirement Fund Transfer. This language allows it transfer of a sum not to exceed 150,000 from the Judges Retirement Fund to the Arkansas Public Employees Retirement System. This is for cost incurred managing and administering the Judges Retirement System. The transfer is subject to approval by the Chief Discluster of the State. There are some changes. This is a request to discontinue language as fund transfer provisions have been codified by Act 130 of 2025. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Members, this same request to discontinue will be repeated for three other fund transfer sections. That's the State Police Retirement Fund Transfer on page 66 and next piece. The Special State Police Retirement Fund Transfer on page 68 and Special Judges Retirement Fund Transfer on page 69. We'll move to page 67. This is an exemption from prior review and this language exempts agency from seeking prior review from legislative counsel for transfers between benefits line item and refund line item in the cash fund appropriation and the benefits non-employee line item in the operations appropriation. Transfers are necessary to accommodate the retirees change and preference for a method of payment by direct deposit. The changes are this expands the exemption to transfers in the State Police and Judicial Retirement sections. And the executive recommendation is the agency request. Mr. Chair, those are all the requests. Thank you, sir. Do any members have any questions on any of these items? Okay, seeing none, I need a motion to approve all. All right, I have a motion to have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Relax, sign. Okay, that motion will carry. Okay, the next one we're going to go to is Mr. Pennman, you're going to present Department of Finance. Okay, this is going to be in volume two members it looks like. If you just recognize yourself and you begin. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Adam Pennman, BLR, fiscal division. We are starting on page 14 of volume two. This is DFA dispersing officer. This is the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 special language which outlines the transfer procedures for any agencies that are looking to need appropriation from the American Rescue Plan Act. The second one on page 20, both of these are asking to be deleted. The second one that starts on page 20, this is for the CARES Act. Same purpose, it's for the transfer procedures for any agency that wants to needs appropriation from funds received by the CARES Act. The agency is requesting that these be deleted due to funds expiring and the language is no longer needed. Our third piece it has, language is going to be on page 45. This language outlines the allocations within dispersing officer. There is an appropriation for juvenile detention facilities with $400,000 in appropriation. And this special language outlines the amounts that will be distributed to each individual juvenile detention facility. The agency has some changes, they are asking for four of these units to be struck through and deleted from the language. Because these four that are asking to be struck through have not been, have not utilized this appropriation since fiscal year 2023. And on section C of this language there is the ability to if by the agency to redistribute the funding between juvenile detention facilities should one or more of these become unavailable. And Mr. Chair, that concludes my presentation for DFA dispersing officer. Okay members, let's do this a little bit different if you don't mind. I think everybody understands the 14 and the 20 deleting the language because those programs are no longer going to be in effect. So can I have a motion to approve the deletion on those? Okay, do I have a motion to have a second? Okay, all in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry. Now let's have some discussion if we don't mind. Could the do you mind coming up, Andy? Mr. Babitt, excuse me. If you don't mind, just recognize yourself. Andy Babitt, DFA. Jessica Moore, DFA. Okay, would you mind just going into a little more explanation on what we're doing here and then how we come about divided it equally, it appears like I guess. So several years ago the four that you see were closed and they were no longer receiving grant funding. In accordance with the lower part of that special language it said we are to distribute those equally or excuse me in a pro ratifation to those that remain. So for the four that were closed all we did was do pro rata to increase the amount for the other 10 that are remaining. Does that make sense? So the language itself said pro rata. But it wasn't pro rata based on how many individuals they were serving is based pro rata on the facilities themselves. That's correct. It was pro rata based on the amount of funding they were receiving. So yes. Okay. Has nothing to do with population. Fair enough. Any other questions, Senator Urban? You're recognized, ma'am. Hold on, let me get you out. You should be. Okay. Thank you. I see that. My question I guess is. Have we looked at the number of kids being served at each of these centers to see if the funding corresponds with the population being served? We have not. We are simply the dispersing officer on this. DHS has some functionality around juvenile detention facilities. Right. And so they may have some information on the number served. But as we are simply administering the disbursement of these funds, we have not. Sure. And the language that you're talking about. Is that language that's in? Was that in an act or was that that that created the pro rata distribution? Where was that language? It was in the it was in the base of the special language. Oh, I see at the base of it. Yes. Okay. Well, I guess I understand what you did. You followed the language here. I guess my question then would be, you know, is this appropriate level of funding for each of these? Or should we rethink this based on the population of those being served at these facilities? Because it kind of doesn't make sense to me. Why, you know, like a Faulkner county is at 28,450 versus Arkansas County at 42665. So I guess we could get some information from. Is there anybody from DHS here that would have any knowledge of this? I don't see anybody. I just wanted to check. I'm sorry, Senator urban. That's okay. So thank you. I agree with what you did here as far as the way that this is allocated. I guess for me, I would just kind of like for us to kind of just get one more look at this. Just to make sure we're doing this correctly. So that we're covering all the needs at all of the just different detention centers. Definitely. We can go back and engage with DHS and see if we can. I just think that's a good idea. Perhaps hold this until we can kind of look at and see if what we're doing here is the right thing to do. Yes. We can definitely do that. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. We have a request to hold this. Everybody. Okay. Perfect. We'll just plan on putting it on probably the next meeting if that gives you all enough time. Senator Hill, I'm sorry. I didn't see that you were wrong. You're recognized. Yeah. I was an area center urban. I asked my questions on that. And I'd like to concur with her and second her motion to hold this. Okay. All right. We're going to hold it. Thank you, sir. Okay. Members, so we're going to hold that one. That was juvenile detention facilities. Next, and we're going to go to Trinity's administrative office of the courts. Okay. Members, this is going to be in volume two. Page 90. Okay. If you'll identify your. Identify yourself and you'll be recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Jennifer Rook, Bureau of Legislative Research. We're looking at page 90 of volume two. It's administrative office of the courts. Sir, funding and appropriation transfer authority for county juror reimbursement. After receiving approval by legislative counsel or JBC, the director of AOC may direct the CFO of the state to transfer appropriation to the county juror reimbursement appropriation and state central services fund funding in the same amount to the county juror reimbursement fund from any state central services fund appropriation authorized for AOC. That's what this language does. Now, you can see that they have something struck through here. This is, we're guessing it's a mix up, but they would like to continue the language at the current language. They'd like a continuation of the current language. Okay. So there's what we're saying then there should not be a structure. There shouldn't be any changes. Okay. Does everybody in here, everybody understands that? So what you're looking at is not exactly right. It will, there will be no strike through and it will be as it was last year. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, whenever I say that, I'm just talking about the language, but thanks for correcting that representing. Okay. Any questions? Okay. Do I have a motion? Okay. I have a motion due passed. We have a second. Okay. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you, ma'am. Okay. The next one is going to be Department of Agriculture. It's going to be in volume two, page 163. Mr. Smith. Thank you, Mr. Chair. My name is Blake Smith with the BLR. And this will be covering the Department of Agriculture's special language change. As Mr. Chair said, the forest will be on the second volume on page 163. And this was for fun transfer, but they are just asking to strike this language due to the money being set aside to potentially reimburse. Overdrawn federal grant money to the US Forest Service. However, after an audit of the grants, they found no outstanding claims. And this just allowed the money to be sent back to the Department. And the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. And that includes my presentation. Thank you, sir. Members, you've heard the explanation. Any questions? Do I have a motion? Okay. Second. I have a motion. Second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That motion will carry. Thank you, sir. Okay. Members, from this point forward, this is just going to be date changes. So what we're going to be is just continuing all this extra language for these next however many pages for. Like I say, it's just date changes. That doesn't mean that if you don't have questions or see something that sparks your attention, be sure and speak a special language is supposed to be from year to year. Okay. Ms. Walden, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon, members. Katie Walden, Bureau of Legislative Research, Fiscal Division. The first piece of language that will be continued with date changes is on page one of volume one. This is the Department of Labor and Licensing. And this is their shared services language. As you all know, this language allows the cabinet level department of labor to achieve efficiencies by streamlining administrative functions for its division. And it allows them to transfer funds, appropriation and positions related to shared services among all of the divisions. The executive recommendation provides this language to continue. Any questions in regards to this? Do I have a motion? Motion to pass. Do I have a second? All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That motion will carry. Next is going to be Labor and Licensing, Licensing Department. Ms. Walden. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The next piece of language for your review with continued language is on page two. This is for the bail bondsman licensing board. This language was added to control for excess balances with the bail bond board. And it states that at the end of each fiscal year, the bail bond board may only retain a fund balance of one year of salaries and operating expenses. And of any amount over that 75% of those proceeds shall be transferred to the general revenue account in the state treasury. Again, their requesting to continue the language and the executive recommendation provides for that request. Thank you. Y'all heard the explanation. Any questions? Do I have a motion? I have a motion to approve. Second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Emotional carry. Next one is going to be Workers' Compensation Commission, correct? Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. On page three, you'll have the Workers' Compensation Commission language. This is refund to expenditure. This allows the Workers' Compensation Commission to be reimbursed for travel expenses when special training or travel is required by non-governmental entities. It allows the agency to recoup reimbursements for their staff training costs if they receive that money back. It also allows them to retain their appropriation if that money is reimbursed. The agency is requesting to continue the language and the executive recommendation provides for that. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Any questions, members? Okay. I have a motion to do pass. Second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry. Next one is going to be Department of Military, Mr. Smith. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, my name is Blake Smith, BLR, and I'll be presenting the Department of Military Special Language. There are two items in both our continuations. This will start on volume one page five. And this language allows the Department of Transfer up to $10,000 from general or cash operations to the promotional line item. Quick note, they did not ask for this transfer in fiscal year 27, but after talking to the Department, they said they will be asking for this transfer in fiscal year 28. And the executive recommendation provides for the agency requests. We'll move on to page six. This is carry forward. This special language allows for the carry forward of funds to be used for construction, maintenance, and operating expenses for the Department. Under 27, there was about $11,000 carried forward that came from general operations in the National Guard Museum. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request, and that includes my presentation, Mr. Chair. Okay. Members, any questions on either one of either of those items? All right. I have a motion to do pass. I have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay. That motion carries for both items. Thank you, sir. Ms. Whit, you're up again. This is going to be the Health Department. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Cameron Whit, Bureau of Legislative Research. The first piece of language with only date changes on your agenda is for shared services on page eight, volume one. This is a continuation of current language. This authorizes the CFO of the state to establish the shared services paying accounts for the Department of Health to transfer funds and appropriations with the department. The next item is on page nine, Arkansas State Board of Chiropractic Examiners Investigative Services for Consumer Complaints. It's a continuation of current language. It provides that $10,000 from professional fees line item shall be made available to fund independent investigative services to investigate or conduct inspections of consumer complaints. It requires qualified investigators and annual reporting to the Senate and House committees on state agencies and governmental affairs on their complaints and findings. The executive provides for the agency request. Next is the Arkansas State Board of Dental Examiners Educational Programs, page 11, a continuation of current language. It authorizes the state board of dental examiners to allocate $15 per licensed dentist annually to qualifying Arkansas nonprofit foundations that identify, treat, and monitor health care professionals with alcohol or drug abuse problems. The executive provides for the agency request. And then the next piece of language on page 12, these are in the health department's tobacco prevention and cessation programs bill. You will actually see these pieces of language again under the minority health commission and the tobacco settlement commission. It's just boilerplate language that come with the two appropriations that are funded by tobacco settlement proceeds. I'll point those out when we get to them. This is a continuation of current language and it prohibits transfers of appropriation under the transfer authority in Arkansas code 19-4-513, allowing transfers only as authorized by the act and the executive provides for the agency request. Page 13 transfers of appropriation. This is a continuation of current language. It allows the department of health to request transfers between the budget classifications of maintenance and general operation under certain conditions with approval from the CFO of the state and ALC or JBC in the executive provides for the agency request. The tobacco fund transfer language on page 16, this is a continuation of current language. It authorizes the department of health to transfer $500,000 from the prevention and cessation program account to the breast cancer control fund to cover the state's Medicaid matching share for breast and cervical cancer screening and treatment. It provides that the transfer will be the only annual obligation for a state match for these services and the executive provides for the agency request. Page 17 is compliance with other laws. This is another piece of just the boilerplate language. It's a continuation of current language. It limits disbursements of funds only to those authorized for tobacco prevention and cessation program appropriations and funds available by law. It requires compliance with state procurement, accounting, salary, fiscal control laws and applicable department of finance and administration rules in the executive provides for the agency request. In the legislative intent language on page 18 is a continuation of current language. It states that it is the intent of the general assembly that funds disperse shall be compliant with the stated reasons for which the act was adopted. As reflected in initiated act one of 2000 budget documents and other legislative records and testimony and the executive provides for the agency request. On page 19, this appears in the department of health operation bill for parking fees on page 19, this is a continuation of current language. The language provides that department of health transfer $50,000 annually to warm memorial from nongeneral revenue funds and the operations appropriation for parking fees in the executive provides for the request. On page 20, you have the indirect cost allocation fund transfers language. It's a continuation of current language. It authorizes the department of health to transfer funds from other agency program funds to the public health fund to reimburse program related expenses. On page 21 is carry forward language and allows the department of health to carry forward unspent trauma funds for the same purpose in the next fiscal year subject to the reporting requirements. It authorizes up to 3.7 million and carry forward funds for emergency management system improvements and long acting reversible contraceptive services through local health units. And then on page 23 is language for the breast care program. It's a continuation of current language. This language requires that the Arkansas Department of Health spend at least $4.75 million annually on breast care program screening diagnosis treatment and outreach and submit an annual report detailing the budgeted allocated and expended funds to legislative public health committee. And that is so far on the health department. Thank you. Senator Hill, you have a question? Which one? I want to go back to page 9. Okay, Arkansas State Board of Chiropractic Examiners. Yes. Okay. Looking at this, I'm just going back and forth between several of these that we've just looked at the word shall and may. And on this one here says 10,000 shall be made available. Should that not be a may on that one? I believe this is saying that there's the $10,000 shall be made available in the appropriation, which they do have. The last expended amount, if you go to the A book on page 209, you will see that the last expenditures were in fiscal year 2019 and 18. If you don't mind, let me get the agency up here. Let's let them do that. Yes. And Senator Hickey, I'd like to expand this since you have them coming up to answer this question. Let's move to the next page on 10, where says a list of who has been investigated and the purported violation. I'd like a little explanation on that, because you go to throwing someone's name out there. If they've just been investigated to me, that that's almost done fair. Let's just have to turn someone in. All right, let's deal with this one first. What's your first first question for them, Senator Hill? If you don't mind, you'll recognize yourself. I'm sorry. God, Adams, Chief of Staff, Hill Department. Matt, you own what Department of Health? You're recognized, Senator Hill. Okay, going back to page 9 at the very top there were the 10,000. And I feel like we had a pretty good explanation from staff on this, but just the difference between the shells and the maze. Have you all come up with those words? Senator Hill? And when to use it? This language has been there for a long time. It was before my time working with this board, so the money's there. They've got the money to do investigations if they need it. I don't know if that answers your question or not, but it's been there for a while. We make sure they've got what they need with their budgets to handle investigations should there rise. Then jumping on over to page 10, the next page says a list of who has been investigated and purported. And purported violation. So there's going to be a list put out on that. So if someone just has an accusation. That was special language added a couple of years ago, about the special language committee asking for a report of who was investigated in the outcome of those investigations, about this board and a couple other ones. Okay. Thank you, sir. Sorry. I don't want us to tell you. Well, you answered it. Senator Urban. Thank you, Mr. Gilmore, Department of Health. Yeah, I'm not sure if I've ever actually seen a report. I mean, the language says that the board shall file a report annually to the state agencies committees. Before then, into the calendar year, I can provide. I think it's weird. Yeah, I think it's weird that it goes to state agencies. Number one, number two. I have a problem with this language just because I'm just not sure if. That's. I mean, a list of who has been investigated in the purported, purported violation and the summary of the findings of each investigation. I don't know if we do that across the board, or my point is, if we're going to require this of this examiner's board of the chiropractors, then we need to be consistent and we need to do it with every single professional license that we hold. Picking this seems very personal. Whoever wrote the special language and whoever presented it and whoever got it passed, this seems very personally motivated and aimed. I think we'd be fine. Removing it, but that'd be a question for this this body. Well, maybe some research to figure out what happened here. I can visit with you. But consistency is always something that I'm looking for. So if it's not language that exists across the board and all licensees examiners boards, then I'm just really not sure if that's really something that we should be doing to be frank with you. I'm not going to be in favor of passing this legislation. We can hold it, or we can give you guys time. Yeah, let's let's look at that and talk with them and see. And then again, consistency of this is if this is existing with, are we getting a list of everybody who's been investigated by physical therapist, nurses. I don't think we are, but thank you. Mr. Gilmore, did I understand you to say that you knew of two or three others? There's, I think, one or two others. I know there's at least, I think, one more. Okay, that's within your department. Yes, sir. Is that going to be special languages coming later? I'll read it here in a little while. Okay. All right. Okay, which one is that going to be? Do you know off top of your head? I know the board of examiners for speech, language, mythology. I believe is one. Okay. Which pages are there? Just so we know. Hang on. No, I appreciate you. No one. They may have actually codified the board of examiners in speech, language, mythology. I think it may have got codified last session. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. I thought it was special language. I think it's actually codified now that I think about it. Okay. Cinder Hill, do you have a... He said, this kind of goes right along with what he just said. You know, if it's that importance here, year after year after year, we shouldn't be hearing it every year. You should be codified. I don't know how I got codified. It wasn't a motion or decision we put forward. Okay. Well, we'll stick with this special language. Okay. Members, we have a motion to hold this. You have a second. Okay. I have a motion to hold this. If you don't mind just trying to figure it out. Get back to staff and we'll put it on either of the next meeting or the following. Okay. All in favor of that motion? Say, I. Okay. Any opposed? Okay. We'll hold that. Thank you for coming down and appreciate the explanation. Okay. Is there any other questions on any other... Any more of these items? Cinder Hill? That's Mr. Gilmore, one you're figuring this out. If you come across any of the other ones, would you please put that list together for us? If there are any other ones out here that are reporting this way? Of this type of reporting? Yes, sir. I will. Now that I think about it, I think it just is those two, but as far as special language, I think it's just that one. Okay. Thank you, sir. Okay. All right. Are there any other questions on any of these items? Okay. So with the exception of the one that we just held, do I have a motion to pass? I have a motion to pass all the others. Second. Okay. All in favor say, I. I. Okay. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. Okay. Next is going to be Health Services Permit Agency. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a carry-forward language for the Health Services Permit Agency. It's a continuation of current language. It allows the agency to carry forward unspent funds generated by fees and fines for the same purposes in the next fiscal year subject to reporting requirements. Any questions or regards to this? Do I have a motion? Yes. That motion do pass. I have a second. All in favor say, I. Any opposed? Any opposed? That motion will carry. Okay. We're going to go to the back to the health department. Yes. This is on page 26 for the Arkansas State Medical Board, educational programs, continuing their current language. It authorizes the State Medical Board to expend $30 from each licensed physician annually to qualifying Arkansas non-profit foundations that identify, treat, and monitor health care professionals with alcohol or drug abuse problems. The executive provides for the agency request. And on page 27, there's a transfer of funds for the State Medical Board, continuing their current language. It requires the State Medical Board to transfer $500,000 annually or the available unobligated balance, if less, to the Department of Education Division of Higher Education's Graduate Medical Education Fund to be used for the Graduate Medical Residency Expansion Board appropriation. And the executive provides for the agency request. Okay. Members, any questions on either item? There's two items. Okay. Do I have a motion to approve both items? I have a motion and a second. All in favor say, I. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. Next is going to be minority health commission. You're recognized. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So on page 30, transfer restrictions for the minority health commission. This is the boilerplate language that I mentioned you would see, again, previously. And it's a continuation of current language. It prohibits transfers of appropriations under the transfer authority, allowing transfers only as authorized by the act. And the executive provides for the request. On page 31, transfers of appropriation. This allows the department to request transfers between the budget classifications of maintenance and general operations under certain conditions with approval from the CFO of the state and the legislative council or joint budget committee. And the executive provides for the request. Page 34, compliance with other laws. Continuing the current language, again, the language limits disbursement of funds only to those authorized for the minority health commission appropriations and funds made available by law. And the executive provides for the agency request. And on page 35, legislative intent. Continuing the current language, it states that the intent of the in general assembly, that the funds are dispersed, shall be compliant with the stated reasons for which the act was adopted. And the executive provides for the agency request. Okay, four items. Members, any questions on any four? Okay, do I have a motion to approve the four? I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That motion will also carry. Okay, back to the health department. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair. We are back to the health related boards and commissions on page 38. This is for the Arkansas State Board of Nursing funding transfer and continuing their current language. It authorizes the state board of nursing to request to transfer not to exceed $100,000 from their state board of nursing fund to the nursing student loan program to provide for a scholar loans appropriation. An executive provides for the agency request. On page 39, the Arkansas Board of Pediatric Medicine educational programs, continuing the current language. It authorizes the Arkansas Board of Pediatric Medicine to expend $10 for each license podiatrist annually to qualifying Arkansas nonprofit foundations that treat identifying monitor health care professionals with alcohol or drug abuse problems. An executive provides for the agency request. Then on page 40 is for the Arkansas spinal cord commission line item transfer. This is a continuation of current language. It authorizes the spinal cord commission to transfer any excess operation to program appropriation to the spinal treatment program upon approval from the chief fiscal officer of the state. That concludes my presentation here. Thank you. All right. Members, three items. Any questions on any of the three? Okay. Do I have a motion to approve the three? I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. Okay. Next is going to be on page three. Top of that. We'll go to the tobacco settlement commission. It's with your lucky get to do another one. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. These are the four boilerplate special language that appears in the tobacco settlement plans. In the interest of time, I can go through these again or I can just say these are continuation their current language and the executive provides for the agency request. That'll be fine. Okay. Members, you heard the explanation and you've got it in front of any questions on any of the four items. Okay. Do I have a motion to approve the four items? Have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. Okay. The next one is going to be Department of Parks Heritage and Tourism. Mr. Parish. Page 47, volume one, members. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Billy Parish, Bureau of Legislative Research. We're on page 47. This is shared services. This language allowed the department to create a section that is designed to eliminate duplication of services and multiple divisions within a department. It allows funding to be transferred from each division for services that are provided to that division by the shared services section. The language was added due to transformation in 2019, the created cabinet level departments, the agency requests and executive recommendations to continue the language into the next years. Okay. Three items. Okay. This is just shared services on page 47. Okay. I'm sorry. All right. So, I have a motion to approve this. Okay. Motion. A second. All in favor say aye. Okay. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. I'm sorry. Now go to division of heritage. Thank you, Mr. Chair. We're in the division of heritage. This is page 48. The first item is promotional and educational materials. And this language authorizes the division to purchase up to 40,000 of promotional and educational merchandise from the maintenance and general operation line items in appropriation sections, authorize and the act. There are no other changes then updating the subset and the executive recommendation is the agency requests. Next item page 49. This is Arkansas Natural and Cultural Resources Council. This language authorizes the secretary of the department to be the dispersing officer of spinning authority to other agencies for the natural and cultural resources council. And main street programs. The language also stipulates the actual expenditures are reflected by the recipient agency. Monies dispersed are counted as inter agency or intra agency fund transfers. There's no changes of an update and sunset executive recommendations agency requests. Next item is on page 50. This is the Washington River Commission. This language directs the division to budget allocate and expend 20,000 in grants to the Washington River Commission. The funds are to be used exclusively as determined by the river commission. There are no changes in executive recommendations, the agency requests. Next item is on page 51 special maintenance. Can we stop the stop those three if you don't mind since they're under that under that one hating because we have questions which which one cylinder hill? We'll get someone from the division here. Let's start with page 49, sir. If you don't mind, you'll just recognize yourself. So we'll have it for the record. Good afternoon, Shay Lewis, Secretary of the Department of Parks, Heritage and Tourism. Good afternoon, Suzanne Grabmeyer, Chief of Staff, Department of Parks, Heritage and Tourism. Senator Hill, you said yours is going to be on page 49, your question? Yes, you're 49 and another one on. I will start with 49. We'll just kind of give us a little background on this one that says, you know, the word shall again, Arkansas, natural and cultural resources council. Kind of give us a little background on what is this, what is a list or spinning it on and just kind of go through some details with it. So the ANCRC, natural and cultural resources council was created as a special funding source through real estate transfer tax. So real estate transfer tax collects the money, then that money is then distributed to state properties across the state. The special language specifically gives the department the authority to be the dispersing officer or source for those funding. Okay, so what about the other areas outside of this one group here? Are they eligible for this transfer tax money? Only state owned properties or state agencies, universities are the only ones eligible for these funds. Okay, so the Arkansas natural and cultural resources council. Yeah, it's made up of the secretary. I'm on it. The land commissioner is on it. The chairman of the Arkansas natural heritage commission is on it. I believe that there is an appointment by the speaker and appointment by the president of the Senate. It's off top of the head. I think it's like nine members that meet quarterly. Okay. You have another question. Yeah, do on page 50. Okay. Kind of along the same line here, where we're looking at grants and aid for this $20,000 is specifically says flush toll river commission. How many river commissions do we have out here and are they eligible for it? And why are we just picking this one? Well, the washtail river commission was transferred over to heritage in 2021. It is. There are nine members. Eight counties have a representative on their Clark washtail, Calhoun, Union Bradley, Ashley Huspring and Dallas. And they're responsible for working with state and federal agencies on maintaining the washtail river and this navigation and that kind of thing. And that was the language we inherited. They use those funds for they've quarterly meetings. So expenses to those meetings. And then they also have the ability to spend those funds on the upkeep of the river through grants and those kind of things. Are we doing the same thing for any other rivers, Mississippi River, Red River, Buffalo River? Well, this is the only one we have. I don't know either. There are primary purposes keeping the washtail river as an navigable waterway. Let's oversee that. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Senator Irving, which one? Yeah, this one just caught my attention to just because I know that we have like this is a shall expand 20,000 every year. So it's a directive. And I know that you inherited where was the 20,000s generated from where? Is that just state general revenue? I'm in about 75 conservation tax. Okay. The conservation tax. Okay. Well, again, I know I would just I'm just interested to see like why we're not doing this for other areas in the state. And there are other places that also have to maintain their waterways and rivers and things like that. So if could I get just a little bit more information just because this seems like this was put in place specifically. And I just want to make sure that we're being judicious about this and fair to all areas at the state of Arkansas. We can certainly research this and kind of provide some additional information. We have very little points of contact with this commission and just was created through this act or this special language. Oh, okay. So the watch the river commission was created through. No, I miss focus. No, our involvement. We were involved. It was transferred to us in 2021 from who? I'm not sure where it came from is before my time, but I know they meet quarterly. I've been to a couple of their meetings. And I couldn't tell you beyond their meeting expenses, what they spend the money on. But we can certainly take a look at it. Yeah, let's hold this. Thank you. Well, first before we do that. Representative Tosh. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Marty said a while ago that you said a while ago that this commission could use this $20,000. I thought you said they could use it either for per dem or for making improvements on the river. I guess what I'm curious about how are they using the 20,000 is it per dem? Are they actually making improvements on the river? Well, they mean quarterly and so the travel expenses for the commissioners will be covered under that money, which would be a small part of it. But the commission works with the state and federal agencies to study, plan and implement needed improvements along the river, evaluate, propose projects and those kind of things. But I'd have to, the commission has control over those funds. So we would have to get with them and see where they're putting that money, where they're putting it to work specifically. Okay. Well, I guess while you're gathering that information for Senator Irwin, I think she requested something. Give me a breakdown of actually what you're using per dem and actually what you're investing back out of that 20 for improvements into the river. It's brought to that. Thanks. Senator Irwin, do you have another question? Is it the same one? Yeah, I just know that when we've had other groups that I'm familiar with in my area, note all the money went to actual projects, which I understand it would be in favor of. But you know, when we have the Buffalo River Conservation Committee, which is in statute, but nobody, I mean it was agency, it was agency supported, but people that actually, so this is a little odd for me because if we're going to do this, I want to see these, this taxpayer dollars be expended towards actual good projects that's making improvements in our waterways or natural resources, things like that. Yeah, I agree with Representative Tosh. Thank you. Okay, members, so you're going to have a motion on 50 to hold. Is that correct? Senator Irwin? All right, so members, let's do that one first. So on page 50, this is the only one we're going to vote on. We have a motion by Senator Irwin to hold. Do I have a second? I have a second, all in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, so if you all don't mind, just get us any and all information that you can from what they're spending the money on. Also, if we, you know, I know we have other rivers at navigation zone, if we're providing the same benefit to them, if you all don't just let us go through it all. Okay, members, so the other one was 48 and 49. Is there any more questions on those? Okay, do I have a motion to approve those two? I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry. Thank you all for coming down. You guys will stay, I guess. Oh, no, Senator Johnson, do you have a question? Just then, okay. Thank you. I'll wait, Mr. Chairman. I'll speak in that matter. Okay, let us, let us let these be presented. Parks and tourism. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay, so we have 551. This piece is special maintenance. The language specifies that the funds appropriated for special maintenance and the conservation tax appropriation section will be used for repair and upkeep of the parks and museum facilities that have been deferred due to lack of funds and the individual budgets of the parks and museums. The expenses require prior approval by ALC. There are no changes other than updating some set and executive recommendation is the agency requests. Next item is on page 53. This is cash prizes state parks and this language authorizes the division to award merchandise gifts and prizes to contestants and special events and pay for these expenses through the maintenance and operation line item in the parks cash fund. The prizes cannot exceed 10,000 in a fiscal year. No changes and executive recommendations agency requests. Next item is on page 54. This is the Mississippi River Domestic International Marketing Plan. And this language authorizes the division to use up to 15,000 each year for implementation of the Mississippi River Domestic International Marketing Plan from the Great River Road Expenses in the State Operations Appropriation Section. There are no changes and the executive recommendation is the agency requests. On page 55 is small festival funding. This language requires a division to dedicate 150,000 for small festivals and Arkansas communities of less than 10,500 people. Any funds not granted out in a fiscal year shall be available for the shall be available for other tourism promotion efforts. There are no changes. The executive recommendation is the agency requests. Next item to be considered is on page 57. This is promotional and education materials. The language allows the division to purchase up to 75,000 and promotional and educational merchandise in their M&O line items. There are no changes. The executive recommendation is the agency request. And I think that's all. I think that staff said that the next two are going to be deferred and they weren't supposed to be on here. I don't think so. Is that correct? Yes, there's my understanding. Those two items are regarding the keep Arkansas beautiful commission and special language in the last fiscal year. That program is transferred to Department of Transportation. And my understanding is y'all want to hold those for consideration when our dot comes before the subcommittee. That's correct. So members, what we're going to be discussing is going to be the top five. So we've got five items. Do I have any questions on the top five items? Okay, Senator Johnson. You're recognized, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The one I'm concerned about is 58 and 60. So they're going to come under the R dot consideration. So we'll just have to. That'll be five. Yes, sir. Thank you. We'll be today. We'll be at another meeting. Another meeting. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Senator Hill. Thank you, Mr. Chair. This will be on page 51 and 55. The same same question for both of them. Okay. 51, 51 and 55. Go ahead, Senator Hill. Okay. On 51, it says the money is used for deferred maintenance. How long has this been? This money been being transferred? And is our deferred maintenance that far behind? And I don't even know what you're saying yet. So the special maintenance program. Deputy director Jeff King is joining us as well to cover this. I'm not sure how many years it has been in place, but I'll let you introduce yourself. Jeff King, Deputy Director, Division of State Parks. My understanding is that this special language was put into place upon the passage of the conservation tax back in the late 1990s. And so this was really to allocate funds for maintenance as new parks and properties were being developed that we had a set aside piece of our appropriation act to go to maintenance of the specific park locations that already existed and had properties. We have an appropriation of $4 million a year for this fund specifically for this fund. Okay. So it's been since the conservation. That would be roughly 30 plus years. Okay. And say same thing on 54. We're looking at we're doing this for the Mississippi River domestic and national marketing plan. Are we doing this? How long has this been in effect? Is one question? And are we doing the same thing for other rivers like the Arkansas River? Senator Boyd is really worried about the Arkansas River. So I need to make sure I say that one today. So the Mississippi River Parkway Commission is founded to preserve and improve the natural resources, cultural heritage, and economic viability around the parkway there. We are Arkansas participates with 10 other Mississippi River states in this and our annual membership is $15,000 to participate. I don't know if we know how long. No, we don't have the date on that, but we will. That's fine. So it's been going on for a while. This is chair for me. I'll just say this is been in their bill since before 1987. The last date that we could pull a bill from our website before that. I have to go to the physical books and find it. So does this thing be codified then instead of having to run this every year? Well, I would. Well, if I could jump in the only thing I would say is with the 15,000 in there, I don't know if. What is it? You say it's the last thing or it's where you joined with the other states. I mean, if you were to if that was to go up a couple of thousand or something, you need to change that special language. I don't know, Senator Hill. That's a valid point. I agree with you, sir. Okay, I will just stop my comments. Okay, any other questions in regards to the other five just five items members, any others? Okay, do I have a motion to approve the top five items motion? I have a motion and a second on favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry. We appreciate the comments. All right, the next one is going to be election commissioners board, Mr. Penman. Oh, Senator Irving, you're recognized, ma'am. Well, they're in the room. I just like Darnell. I think I got State Park of the year. And I was at the presentation, which was held in Mountain View at Blanchard Springs, Caverns. But it was incredible what Lake Darnell did. And I just shout out to Lake Darnell State Park and all the fishing tournaments that they held. And I assume this special language for these cash prizes was a big part of that. It is related to what we talked about, but it was fabulous. Y'all did such a great job at Blanchard. But congratulations to Lake Darnell State Park. Right. Thank you, Senator Irving. You're recognized, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair. We are starting on page 61 and volume one for election commissioners board. This first piece of language is Carrie Ford for their election expenses appropriation. This allows the agency to carry forward general revenue in this appropriation for election expenses between fiscal years. The previous Carrie Ford for this, they mentioned on their budget hearing on Thursday, was $3.9 million. Noting that the majority of election expenses are in the second fiscal year, and they only ask for GR for the first year. Our next appropriation on page 63 is asking for transfer. This allows the transfer funds from their nonpartisan general elections appropriation from the nonpartisan filing fee fund to miscellaneous agencies to fund their operations or their election expenses appropriation. And Mr. Chair, that concludes my presentation for election. Okay, members, two items. Any questions? Do I have a motion to approve both items? I have a motion? I have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry. Next is going to be Ms. Walden Public Service Commission. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The next piece of special language with the continuation of language and date changes on page 64. This is also refund to expenditure for the Public Service Commission. It's similar to what you saw earlier with the Workers' Compensation Commission. This language requires the proceeds from the reimbursement of travel expenses received by the commission to be deposited into the same treasury fund or fund account, and it also credits appropriation back to the agency once those funds are reimbursed. The executive recommendation brought through the continuation. Thank you. Okay, I have a motion to approve this. I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry. Next is going to be Ms. Rook Public Defender Commission. I remember it's going to begin on page 71, first volume. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Jennifer Rook, Bureau of Legislative Research. On page 71 of volume 1 is the Indigent Parent Council Representation. This allows parent council to enter into professional contracts with attorneys to provide counsel for indigent parent parents in cases involving termination of parental rights. This is a continuation of current language and the executive does provide for the agency request. 72 is the transfer provision on items. This is for the Commission for Parent Council as well. It is a continuation of current language. It allows transfer of appropriation between law and items for parent council except for the personal services matching law and item. The executive does provide for the agency request on page 74. This is a transfer provision as well. This is for the Public Defender Commission. If payments to counties are insufficient, appropriation may be transferred from the Public Defender Commission Program line item to the bail bond county public defender line item after approval from the state CFO. This is a continuation of current language and the executive provides for the agency request. The last one is on page 75. This is Public Defenders. This says no funds shall be used for retained counsel who have not been certified by the Public Defender Commission and the Commission may also approve exemptions. This is a continuation of current language and the executive does provide for the agency request. Senator Hill, is this for the agency? Yes. Is there anyone from the agency here? Which ones are going to be Senator Hill? Page 75. Okay. You don't mind just recognize yourself. Thank you members Greg Parish. It's all Public Defender Commission. Senator Hill, you recognize for your question. Thank you, Mr. Parish. If you could just put a little color on this for us, if you would, you know as far as the retained attorney when a retained attorney has not undergone through the commission, the attorney certification. Can you kind of give us a little background where this came from? How long has been in effect? And does it need to go in a code? Certainly. This arose. I think the year was 2013. The style of the case is Arkansas Public Defender Commission versus Plasky County Fourth Division Circuit Court. And what happened there, the defendant's last name was Muhammad and it may best be remembered. I think there was a shooting at a National Guard office or something along those lines. The defendant through family or himself retained counsel somewhere close to Memphis. And then asked for funds because he was indigent asserting family at hired his counsel asserting he was indigent wanting the state of Arkansas to provide funds for the hiring of an expert witness. The commission followed it at the trial court level and then we took the appeal to the Arkansas Supreme Court, which ruled that we have to provide when it's available funds and furtherance of an offense when a defendant is determined to be indigent by a court. Procedurally what happens is the forms are on our website. If retained counsel has a client who is in fact indigent, he must get he or she must get the circuit judge to make that finding in written form first under affidavit sign by the defendant. Then submit that affidavit along with the forms that are on our website, which will detail obviously the name of the defendant, the charges location, the amount of money the attorney has been paid, the amount of money the attorney anticipates to be paid. And then set forth who he or she is requesting as an expert the money for that and estimate the costs. That comes to me for my review and I look at them to make sure if that request is made it is in furtherance of the defense. For instance, they'll be asking for a fingerprint expert, if fingerprints are an issue in the case, the reason for it. And if I approve it, I limit the amount to a certain dollar amount, depending upon what they're asking and put forth that any future funds, you've got to come back and ask again so we can monitor it. This occurs throughout the year, probably 10 to 15 times, roughly. And an average ask is anywhere from $3,500 to $5,000 or $6,000. Thank you. Good memory. I remember the shooting that you're talking about. I remember that. Believe it or not, I deal with it every month, so I've got a lot of it memorized. Do you feel like this needs to be codified? I'm sorry, sir. I feel like we need to put this in code. I'm sorry. Do you feel like we need to put this in code instead of bringing it back every year? No, I'd prefer to see it come back every year, would be honest with you. Thank you, sir. Yes, sir. Can you expand on why? I mean, since this has been to the Supreme Court, I mean, why do you think that it's still these been special language? I guess this is just for me to understand it a little further. I understand what you're saying on everything, but if we've been to that extent, why not put it in code? I guess it's, Senator, I guess it's more of a personal preference having been in the private practice of law. I will just tell you something about it. I don't like. I mean, I'm just going to be honest about it. And it with hopes that maybe some court in the future will say, we're going to do something differently, but I don't know. I'm not tour part either way. I mean, put it in code if you want to, but I'm just going to be honest with this body. I'm not crazy about it, but I'm just going to follow the law. That's fair. So any other questions in regards to, let's see, here we got four items here. Any other questions in regards to the four items, Senator Hill? Let's back up on that. Just a little bit more if we can then. Okay. We're still on the public defender. Yes, page 75. If we pull this out with the courts have to take it back up? No, sir. I mean, we have standing precedent from the Arkansas Supreme Court right now. What it would involve if we wanted to try to overturn that precedent to find a case that was on point in a justifiable reason to take it back up from the Supreme Court. Do you have that? That's a moment. I do not, sir. Okay. Thank you. Yes, sir. All right. Four items. I have a motion to approve. In a second. All in favor say aye. Okay. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. And we'll let you know I greatly appreciate your explanation. Sometimes that's good just to hear it straight up. So thank you for that. Thank you, sir. Okay. We're going to go to. Mr. Penman, Department of Finance and Administration. We're going to be in volume two. Page one. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Our first appropriations are going to start us on page one for DFA. This is the shared services language and I said before this is set at the department level to allow the chief fiscal off of the state to allow transfer funds appropriations in personnel. To try and create efficiencies where they can. Okay. The motion to approve. The motion is true. We have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. Okay. The next one is going to be assessment coordination department. Thank you, Mr. Chair. This next language that is only asking for date changes. The next two sections that is on page two and page three. Both of these deal with assessment coordination to real property reappraisal fund. The language on page two handles the fund transfer that is proportional amounts from the public school fund account, the county aid fund and the municipal aid fund to send to that real property reappraisal fund. The maximum of $14,250,000 each year. And on page three, this allows transfers of general revenue. And the amount up to one and a half million dollars. And our last one on page four, the transfer provision here allows for additional appropriation as needed to assist with funding the assessors school. Okay. Any questions on these three items? Good. I have motion to approve. Motion. Have a second. Okay. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. The next one is the D.F.N.A. Management Services Division. Mr. Bady. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a question. Yes, sir. Could we batch these date changes on all of these? Is that being an order? Well, do whatever this committee wants to do. It had been myself and your co-chair. You know, since special language is supposed to be year to year, that we said that we were going to try to go through all these. We just thought that it was prudent this year that we try to look through everything just to make sure that nothing. Oh, kind of. Smoke out on us or anything in that so that we had made that decision to go through all of these. Okay. But you are correct. That would be normally what we would do. But just to be straight up, we just decided to look at everything. All right. I'm good with that. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Rep. St. Bady. Okay. You continue. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Our next appropriation. This is for D.F.A. Budget Management Services. This is for the Department of Justice and non-victim assistance grants. This language outlines the funding and implementation process for these grants and for the funding for drug task force operations. Okay. One item, remember, I have a motion to approve. I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That motion will carry. Okay. We're going to go to page four. Mr. Penman, you're going to do this and looks like we have a bunch. Department of Finance and Administration. Yes, sir. We have 33. For D.F.A. dispersing officer. All right. Starts on page eight. This is pregnancy help organization grants. This sets out definitions and requirements for pregnancy help organization recipients and also certifies the Department of Finance and Administration in administering and dispersing the funds for them. Our next appropriation is going to be on page 11. This is transfer procedures. This is appropriation for the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. Like the language agency was asking to delete this outlines the transfer process for agencies that are getting appropriation and funding from the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. Our next appropriation is going to take us to page 24. This is looking at classification and use of appropriations. The next five appropriations, this is looking at the holding accounts that would be through peer. This classification use of appropriations is regard to marketing and redistribution. Our next appropriation on page 25. This is all related to the previous piece of language with marketing and redistribution. Talking about outlines the transfer procedures. On page 26, our next one for miscellaneous transfers. It only states that no general revenue is to be used to fund this appropriation section. More restriction on transfer provisions that is related to the refund to expenditures line item. On page 28, this looks at the transfer procedures for personal services over time and outlines the process for obtaining this appropriation for agencies. On page 29, this is again looking at classification use of appropriations with refund to expenditures and states that there to be used for the same purposes that this appropriation would be sent out for. On page 30, we're looking at transfer procedures. This is for cash funds, which in peer, if you remember, every month there are certain agencies that will be coming and asking for cash appropriation. This relates to that. On page 31, this relates to the miscellaneous federal grants line item that we would have in peer. And restricts the usage of the MFG paying account appropriation. And also states that it shall not be used to establish new spending authority. Page 32, this looks at various state agencies. This is also the cash fund appropriation. It says that there is no authority to create or establish new positions from cash funds received. Page 33, this is transfer procedures for personal services. And outlines how to obtain appropriation for personal services, which also requires approval from ALCJBC. And may be approved on an emergency basis for the last payroll of the fiscal year and then reported to ALCJBC in the next month. On page 35, this is funding transfer procedures for the performance fund. This would also be part of peer, as part of the holding accounts, and requires peer review. Page 36, this is the public defender. They do have a public defender reimbursement line item in their miscellaneous grants and expenses appropriation. This language states that shall be expended only for the purpose of reimbursing the public defender of Pulaski County. Page 37, this is special language for the Arkansas Sheriff's Association. The revenues that would be transferred from administration and justice fund and talks about how will be paid in a monthly lump sum installment. And outlines three ways that those would be used for. Page 38, this is the distribution of the state administration of justice fund. And then on page 40, this outlines the allocations that would be distributed through the administration of justice fund. All the entities that are able to receive that appropriation and funding. On page 33, page 43, my apologies. This talks about yearly fund transfers. This is related to the crime victims' reparation revolving fund. It goes through the transfer procedures for funding to the revolving fund. Should it drop below $1 million? Page 44, this is workforce 2000 distribution. This is funded by the workforce development fund and it's split between technical colleges and Votex. On page 47, this is talking about the transfer procedures, the transfer of funds for the child abuse rate, domestic violence unit over at UAMS. On page 48, this is talking about the state's contributions. Saying the secretary of department may transfer appropriation and funding between the line items authorized in that act. And also allows carry forward. On page 49, this is back to the peer-related items. This is the transfer procedures for personal services stipends. Outlines the process for transferring that appropriation. On page 51, this relates to position establishment. And talks about the new any positions that are established with this appropriation. Not to be considered as part of the total number of authorized positions for a state agency. And not to be eligible for state retirement service credits or state health insurance benefits. On page 52, this is transfer authorized to Arkansas Children's Hospital. There are four particular sections that they're authorized in their department's appropriations appropriation for the Arkansas Children's Hospital Burn Center, Children's Hospital Payments, Reproductive Health Monitoring, and for the intensive care nursery. On page 53, this is for innovation and project development fund transfers. This is another line item in their miscellaneous grants and expenses. And talks about complying with federal rules and transfer procedures for there. On page 55, we have transfer procedures for personal services extra help. This is again one of the peer-related items. On page 56, this is interest state metro planning grants. This was from a member amendment that says the authorized funding for these metro planning grants are evenly distributed among planning and development districts within the state. On page 57, this is a fund usage authorized. This also relates back to Children's Hospital with the Division of Medical Services and the Department of Human Services grant fund. They're allowed a million dollars to be made available by this act. On page 58, this is the transfer procedures for the Medical Marijuana Implementation Operations Fund that would reimburse agencies with duties related to enforcing and regulating medical marijuana. On page 59, this fund transfer authority also relates back to the Medical Marijuana and the previous section of language, which allows the chief fiscal officer to transfer funds from the Medical Marijuana Implementation Operations Fund to agencies that are implementing and regulating medical marijuana. On page 60, this blanket bond program. This is our each individual appropriations within DFA dispersing officer. It allows the agency to transfer appropriations between the four line items. On page 61, this is transfer procedures for various temporary appropriations. Again, this is a peer-related item. On page 63, this is the newest piece of languages redistribution of driver's license reinstatement and installment fees, which shows that the DFA shall transfer and disperse general revenue funds each year to the following, which includes the public employee's retirement system, administrative office of the courts, state administration of justice fund, and DFA office of motor vehicles. Thank you, sir. Representive vote is your question for agency or staff. I think it'll be for staff. All right. So, if you go back to page 40. Page 40. It just seems like it's weird that it's in this spot. Highway Safety Special Fund for the Arkansas Highway Safety Program. And then the state police have a retirement fund and vision state police fund. Those just don't seem like they have much to do with the court system. So I said, no. Why they were there? How long does that make sense? Okay. We may need agency to come up on that particular one. All right. If you don't mind recognizing yourself, again, Andy Babet, DFA. Jessica Moore, DFA. Could you hear the question? I did. I wish I had a better answer for you, but this has been in here for a very long time. And the laugh of me, I cannot explain to you what these two are in there. Do you have? That's for likewise. Okay. We'll look into it and get information. Like I'd like to know why they're in that area. Absolutely. We'll get that information. Thank you. Do you want to hold that particular item or just pass? Okay. All right. So which number is that? Page 40. Yes. So you have a motion to hold 40. Before we do that, Senator Hill, which one is yours is yours going to be? 36. Okay. Let me ask this first. Any other members have any other questions on any items? Okay. Senator Evan, which one is yours going to be on 40? No. 52. Okay. All right. So this is what I want to do. I want to take a motion on the hold for a representative vault. So we've got a motion to hold number page 40. Have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. That'll carry. So now, Senator Hill, you're next. You're up. On page 36. Why is that limited to just Pulaski County? Can someone explain that to me? Senator, I will have to get the information on that. Why it's limited to just Pulaski County. I do know that we haven't incurred expenditures in that one item since 2023. And it was only for a period of time for about $16,000. So we'll get that and figure out the origination of this language. Appreciate it. I would like to hold this one until we get that information, Mr. Chair. Okay. Well. That's a motion. All right. Let's go ahead and deal with that. Well, before we do that, does anybody have another question on 36? Okay. So we have a motion to hold 36. We have a second. We have a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. So we'll hold 36. Okay. Senator Irving, you're in Europe. Thank you. And you're not going to be able to answer my question. I don't know if anybody's here from Children's Hospital. Do we have anyone from Children's Hospital, either in the room or outside? Anybody that could answer this language? Which one is it? Senator Irving. Thank you. I mean, I know that the Burn Center is straightforward. I'm just... I just... I know that this language has been in here for a while. Do we know how long? I do not know how long, but we based on our budget hearings yesterday. We have reached out to Children's Hospital to gain a little bit more information on the reproductive health monitoring to the puzzle. Yeah. So I think that was... Yeah. So because of that, I think... I just... We'd like to know what that means. Understand. And we're going to get that to you. Yeah. And language matters. And so if we need to rewrite that and to be a little bit more specific. And then I also would like to see if these amounts are appropriate, given where we are... I just kind of would like to know if they need to be readjusted. Because the ICU nursery is so critical, and it's really the only one we have in the state. I know we have the Burn Center, too. But I just kind of want to see if these numbers reflect where we are needed. Or, you know, where it's actually needed. Or maybe it needs to be refigured a little bit. And I'm not trying to take anything away. I'm just saying, if you're going to be specific in the language, then, you know, it's only going to go to there. But if that's really necessary or needed. So I don't know those answers to those questions. And I know there were other questions from other members about that language. Thank you. I'll make a motion to hold that. Okay. We're seeing the last room. Is yours in regards to 52? Yes, sir. I concur with what Senator Erwin's doing. I'm concerned. Language does mean things. And I'd like to know. I'd like to look back on that. What actually has these funds gone to in the past, say, 10 years? So as to that, this is strictly basically what is going on here is the state is making the Medicaid match for children's hospital up to that amount. Okay. So the Medicaid match, meaning it could be 1.2 million going to children's for reproductive health. I'd like to know what that is. I understand. And we've reached out and we're going to get a response. Thank you. Okay. Anything else on 52? All right. So I have a motion from Senator Erwin to hold it. I have a second from multiple people. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Okay. So that one will also be held. That motion carries. That's 52. All right. Okay. So currently we've held 36, 40 and 52. Is there any other questions on any of the other items? Okay. Mr. Penman, how many do you tell me you had in the beginning? 33? Yes, sir. 33. That's what I counted to. All right. So members, we have 30 other items that we're voting on here. So I do have a motion to approve those 30 items. Senator Erwin makes a motion. We have a second. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Okay. That'll carry. Okay. The next one we're going to go to is DFNA, Mr. Penman. Thank you all for coming down. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Our next section is going to start on page 64 and volume 2. This is revenue services division appropriation transfers. This allows the division to transfer appropriation between the refund light item appropriations in the act. There are five in the division. That's the income and add floor and property tax, corporate income tax, gasoline tax, interstate motor fuel tax and miscellaneous tax refunds. And it allows them to transfer appropriation between those line items as needed. Okay. Any questions on this? Do I have a motion to approve? I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Okay. That emotional carry. Okay. You can continue, Mr. Penman. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Our next special piece of special language date changes only is going to be on page 67. This takes us over to the Department of Shared Administrative Services. This special language is for centralizing services. Allowing the department to enter into contracts with a state agency or government entity as necessary for centralizing government services. And then there are certain rules and regulations that are part of that. Any questions on page 67? I have a motion to approve. Okay. Do we have a second? I have a second. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Okay. That'll carry. Next one is S.A.S. Building Authority. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Our first, sorry, special language for building authority begins on page 69. This is the transfer funds language for the Justice Building Operations. And after receiving approval from the chief fiscal officer of the state, they may transfer, request a transfer of funds from state central services to their maintenance fund for operation of the Arkansas Justice Building. Our next piece of language on page 70. There also transfer funds language that allows transfer from the building maintenance section to the acquisition and maintenance section and receive from another state agency. It's appropriation and transfer funds deposited into that real estate fund to begin part of the acquisition and maintenance appropriation. Our next appropriation on page 72. This is for their contingency appropriation of transfer authority. It allows them to transfer appropriation as funds as needed from their management contingency appropriation. That's line item in the building maintenance section. And then on page 73, this is the accompanying piece of special language that outlines the transfer procedures to that facility's management contingency appropriation. On page 75, we have the transfer for the Sustainable Building Design Program that outlines transfer process for any agency that needs renovations of state on property greater than $250,000. And on page 77, we have an accompanying piece of special language with the Sustainable Building Design that is their revolving loan fund and outlines procedures for that. And the last piece of language for building authority is going to be on page 78. This is their cash fund account that says building authority may transfer any unspent funds in a cash fund account that would be related to management of a state-owned facility. And that concludes building authority. Okay. Seven items, members, any questions on any of them? Hey, do I have a motion to approve the seven items? I have a motion, I have a second, all in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that emotional carry geographic information systems. Thank you, Mr. Chair. This begins on page 79. This is their carry forward language that comes from years with accrued salary savings and for operational efficiencies that allows the division to carry forward any unexpended balance and their previous year for FY26, their carry forward amount was $351,000. And also has language requiring a written report to ALCJBC. One item, any questions, member? I have a motion to approve. We have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, the emotional carry. Office of State Technology. Thank you, Mr. Chair. This begins on page 81. They have two pieces of special language. This first piece is outlining compliance with state and federal regulations. The first section would keep the agency in compliance with state and federal regulations by giving the director the ability to adjust billing rates as needed. And our second piece section here provides flexibility for cash management purposes and to accumulate a reserve for equipment acquisition, which is part of their equipment and acquisition fund. Our second piece of language on page 83. This is a transfer provision provision between line items. And this is after receiving approval from the chief fiscal office of the state. And this would also require prior review by ALCJBC. The secretary of shared administrative services may transfer appropriation between line items authorized in their operations appropriation. Okay. Two items, members, any questions? Okay, I have a motion to approve. We have a second. On favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that emotional carry. Mr. Creative Office of the Courts, Mr. Rook. Thank you, Mr. Chair. We're looking at administrative office of the Courts. This is all in volume two. The first one is on page 84. This is fund transfer language. It is a continuation of current language. Federal funds transferred to state central services received from the state police, from the federal state and community highway safety program. Are to be used to reimburse the district judge's continuing education appropriation. There's no executive recommendation. The second one is on page 85. This is the dependency neglect representation. Appropriation transfer authority. It allows the AOC to transfer funds and appropriations between line items. For the dependency neglect appropriation after receiving prior approval of the state CFO and legislative council or JBC. The third piece of language is on page 87. This is monthly installment language. It is a continuation of current language. Provides that I lump some monthly installment of the annual appropriation. For the division of dependency neglect representation, shall be provided from the state administration of justice of fund to state central services fund. Again, there's no executive recommendation. On page 88. This is transfer provision language. It allows transfer of appropriation between line items in the court automation appropriation after receiving prior approval of the state CFO, legislative council or JBC. There is no executive recommendation on that one. And the last one is on page 92. This is the implementation of Act 371 of 2025, the installment fees in district court. AOC may develop implementation guidance to assist district courts with proper assessment of installment fees and district courts. And it shall be implemented to minimize financial hardship on individuals paying on an installment basis. There is a continuation of current language and there is no executive recommendation on that. Okay. Five items. Rip any ties. Yes, sir. I have a question, Mr. Chair. For the agency or staff. For the staff. Page 84. Just a quick question, please. I'm just curious that funds received by the Arkansas State Police for safety incentives. Why would they be transferred to the administrative court not used by the state police to address those safety concerns? For the agency. Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry. If you don't mind, just come forward and recognize yourself. Sam Kaufman, I'm the finance director over at the administrative office of the courts. So my understanding is there's a federal grant that is awarded to the state police. And then some of those funds are transferred over to us for district judge continuing education. And it's specifically on matters related to traffic. Those sorts of things. So it's geared specifically to. I'm sorry to do that. Yes, sir. Why would the grant not be administered directly to the administrative courts? Why does it has passed through the state police? You know, I mean, the honest answer is I'm not sure about that piece of it. I mean, you know, it's fairly common. Some of these grants will be awarded to one agency or another. And then. The appropriate agency within our state government is located and funds go through through that way. Yes, I'm sure I understand that and I'm not sure why the state police wouldn't use that. If it's, you know, if the grant is for safety and since I'm sure they could use it for that reason. So I'm just a little confused why it's passing through them going to the administrative court not being utilized for the purpose it was designed for. Well, yes, I believe it is being used for the purpose of the federal grant. And the perhaps most efficient allocation is ultimately to go through the AOC and district judges continuing education. All right. Thank you for that. Yes, sir. Senator Dobby. You recognize me. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think Sam answered at the very last and I've looked into this before. This is a, this is grant money coming out of the federal government. That is designed and correct me. Sam, if I'm wrong, designed to help educate the bar and particular enough the bar of the bench and particularly district judges because they're dealing with DWI cases and all of that. It's just the way the Fed set it up is what I was understanding and that was just going to kind of elucidate on that for just a moment. And that that's where I've always, because I've asked the same thing representative Tosh and that's, that's my understands the way the Fed set it up for education purposes. That's precisely my understanding as well. Great discussion. Okay. Any any other questions in regards to these? Yeah. That says may so that don't mean they have to. It doesn't say shall it says may. So who makes the decision? I believe state police makes that decision at. It goes from right the federal government to state police. But my point is they can if they choose to keep the money. Because it says may. I think that's ultimately going to be contingent as well on whatever those federal guidelines are or whatever the terms of the federal. That may be the best way to do it, but the decision rests with the state police. Perhaps. Thank you. Is everybody okay with passing that or is anybody wants more information? Okay. All right. We have a month with five items to have a motion to pass all five. I have a motion. I have a second. I'm favor say I. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. Thank you for coming down. Okay. Next one is going to be the eternal attorney general. Mr. Rook, you recognize me. Thank you, Mr. Chair. There are two pieces of language here. The first one is on page 93. It's the transfer provision. The AG's office is authorized to transfer appropriation and funding between line atoms and their operations appropriation. That's after approval of the state CFO and review by legislative councilor JBC. This is a continuation of current language. There is no executive recommendation. The second is on page 94. It's a fund transfer. They may deposit or transfer but check monies from the unobligated cash funds. The attorney general's office received from court orders or settlement agreements to the state central services fund. Again, this is a continuation of current language and there is no executive recommendation. Seeing no questions, I have a motion to approve. I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry. I'll draw the state. Thank you, sir. So the auditor, there are three pieces of language here. The first one and the second one are ones that you will find in the general appropriation bill. The first one is the dispersing officer. This is just saying that the auditor state shall be the dispersing officer for the funds appropriated for auditor state disbursements. It is currently continuation of current language. There is no executive recommendation. The second piece of language is the judicial disbursements. The auditor state acts as dispersing officer for special and recalled judges, trial judges, expenses, and district judges travel expense reimbursements. It is a continuation of current language. There is no executive recommendation. The last one is transfer provision and this allows transfer of appropriation between line items in their operations appropriation. And also allows transfer of appropriation between line items in their unclean property program appropriations. This is after approval from state CFO prior review by legislative council or JBC continuation of current language and no executive recommendation. Okay, I don't see any questions, only three items. So we have a motion. We have a second. All in favor say aye. Okay, any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry. Next is Governor's Mansion Commission. Page 104. Page 104. This is regarding their cash fund. It just is saying that it directs the state CFO to transfer excess funds over 300,000 at the end of each fiscal year. And the Governor's Mansion cash fund to the state central services fund to defray state support for the mansion. This is a continuation of current language and there is no executive recommendation. Seeing no questions, I have a motion to approve. I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that will carry. Office of Governor. There's one piece of language here. This is transfer provision. It is a continuation of current language. It allows the transfer of appropriation between line items in their operations appropriation. This is after approval from the state CFO and prior review by legislative council or JBC. There is no executive recommendation. Okay. Seeing no questions, I have a motion to approve. I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry. Secretary of State. Okay, there's two pieces of language here. The first being the transfer provision. And this allows them to transfer appropriation between line items of the operations appropriation. After approval of state CFO and prior review by legislative council or JBC. It is a continuation of current language and no executive recommendation. The second is the permanent gift shop. This language is stating the secretary of state shall operate a gift shop on the first floor of the state capital building and it shall be the only location. This is a continuation of current language and there is no executive recommendation. Okay, two items. Okay, I'm seeing no questions. I have a motion to approve. Okay, second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that'll also carry. You can continue. Thank you, sir. Now we're looking at the treasurer's office on page 110. The first one is their transfer provision. It's a continuation of current language. It provides that the state treasurer determines that appropriations for payments of maturing bonds and interest are insufficient. Appropriation may be transferred from the refunds reimbursements line item for the payment of bonds. There is no executive recommendation on this one. The other is on page 111. It's also a transfer provision. This authorizes the transfer of appropriation between line items and the operations appropriation. After approval by the state CFO and prior review by Legislative Councillor JVC, it is a continuation of current language and there is no executive recommendation. Seeing no questions, I have a motion to approve these two items. I have a motion and second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That motion will carry. Next is county aid. With your permission, I would like to combine county and municipal aid because it's all in the same bill. Sounds good. Okay. So on page 114. It's also going to be on 120 if you're looking at the municipal aid side. This is a continuation of current language. This is the distribution of funds. It's funding from the property tax relief trust fund of $2 million each to cities and counties. Shall not be distributed unless there are sufficient funds in the property tax relief trust fund. The executive does provide for agency requests on page 115. It's going to be the same as on the 121. This is a continuation of current language. This is the provision of a loan to the county aid and municipal aid funds from the budget stabilization trust fund on July 1st of each fiscal year. To assist cities and counties with cash flow needs early in the state fiscal year. It also provides that the loan will be repaid in equal installments from general revenue distributions each month during the fiscal year for which the loan was made. One of each loan shall be 3.5 million to the municipal aid fund and 1.9 million to the county aid fund. Or so much as might be available in the budget stabilization trust fund. The executive does allow for the agency request. The third piece of language is the responsibility for funding. This one does only apply to counties and it is continuation of current language. The county shall be responsible for a portion of the cost of regular salaries and personal services matching for deputy prosecuting attorneys. The executive provides for the agency request. And the last piece of language is on page 118. This is local and temporary, I'm sorry, carry forward language. It's a continuation of current language. Any unexpended general revenue shall be carried forward at close of the fiscal year. The executive provides for the agency request and this is just a continuation of current language. Also on page 123. Yes, sir. Okay, no problem. Okay. So members, we have seven items. County aid municipal aid. Are there any questions under the, for the seven items? Okay, do I have a motion to approve the seven items? I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, see none. That motion will carry for both the county aid municipal aid. Okay, we're going to go to the last page. Members this week, there was two weeks, two weeks. So it's a reason it seems extra long. So. Okay, Department of Corrections. Miss Davis. Just whenever you're ready. Thank you, Mr. Chair and good afternoon, members. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Chair, all the Department of Corrections provisions are a continuation of current language. I will start on page six of the agenda of volume two, starting with the Department of Corrections special language. On page 125, 126 and 127, reallocation of resources, this continuation of current language to the Department of Corrections to reallocate positions, programs, funds and appropriations within or between its divisions for specified operational needs. They shall receive approval from the governor and prior approval from legislative council or joint budget committee. Transfers are limited to 5% of the applicable resources with no more than two requests per division for a single purpose each fiscal year. The executive recommendation provides for the agency requests. On page 129 and 130, county jail reimbursement fund year in fund balance carry forward. This continuation of current language allows any unspent funds remaining in the county jail reimbursement fund at the end of the fiscal year to be carried forward into the following fiscal year. Subject to re- and justification and legislative report and requirements. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Next on page 131, transfer of appropriation and funds to the county jail reimbursement fund. This continuation of current language allows the Department of Corrections to transfer general revenue appropriation and funds to the county jail reimbursement fund to reimburse counties for housing state inmates. Subject to approval from the chief fiscal officer of the state and review and approval from legislative council or joint budget committee. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. On page 132, you will find shared services. This continuation of current language authorizes the chief fiscal officer of the state to establish a shared services paying account and transfer funds and appropriations within the Department of Corrections for the payment of personal services and operating expenses. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Mr. Chair, this concludes the Department of Corrections request for special language. Thank you. Any questions for these four items, members? Okay. Send none. Do I have a motion to approve these four items? I have a motion and a second to do pass. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay. Send none. That motion will carry. Next is going to be the community correction division. Next is going to reveal the Department of Corrections community correction special language. On page 133 and 134, transfer provision. This continuation of current language allows the division of community correction to transfer appropriation between line items within its state operations and special revenue operations appropriations. Subject to approval by the chief fiscal officer of the state and review and approval from the legislative council or joint budget committee. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. On page 135, motor vehicle purchase provision. This continuation of current language allows the division of community correction to purchase motor vehicles from the appropriations authorized for a capital out late in the state operations and special revenue operations appropriations. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Mr. Chair, this concludes that Department of Corrections community correction requires for special language. Okay. Any questions, members? Two items. Okay. You have a motion to approve the two items. Have a motion and have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay. That motion will carry on division of correction. Next we're going to review the Department of Corrections division of correction special language. On page 136 and 137, transfer of appropriation within capital improvement projects. This continuation of current language allows the division of correction to transfer appropriations between capital improvements or construction projects. Subject to approval by the governor and prior approval from the legislative council or joint budget committee. These transfers cannot exceed the total appropriations authorized by the general assembly. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Next on page 138, you have employee compensation report. This continuation of current language requires the Department of Finance and Administration to prepare a report detailing the finding and appropriations needed for holiday liability. Gap time liability over time and hazardous duty compensation for the Department of Corrections employees. The report must be submitted to legislative council or joint budget committee and included in the biennial budget manual. As required by section 19 of act 120 of 2026. This report was included in the budget manual from the hearings this morning. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. On page 139, refund to expenditure. This continuation of current language allows the proceeds from the sale of figure cattle to be deposited into the state treasury as a refund to expenditure for the division of corrections purchase cattle. Slash media appropriation line item. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. If you turn the page 140 and 141, you will find use of maintenance and operation appropriation and salvage material use construction. This continuation of current language allows the division of correction to use its maintenance and general operation appropriation along with surplus or salvageable materials for construction projects benefit the department. A method of finance document must be submitted for reviewing approval by the legislative council or joint budget committee. The Department of Finance and administration and the division of building authority. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Next on page 142 and 143, you have special revenue cash funds transfer. This continuation of current language allows the division of correction to transfer special revenue and cash funds into the inmate care and custody fund account to meet budget needs with approval from the board of corrections and achieve fiscal officer of the state and prior approval from the legislative council or joint budget committee. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Moving along the page 144 and 145 new facilities. This continuation of current language allows the division of correction to transfer appropriations from inmate care and custody to operate new facilities through contracts with economically beneficial to the state with approval from the chief fiscal officer of the state and prior review and approval. From the legislative council or joint budget committee, the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Next, you'll find on page 146 and 147 appropriation transfer for constructing and equipping. This continuation of current language allows the division of corrections to transfer appropriations between line items to finance construction or equipment for department facilities. With approval from the chief fiscal officer of the state and prior review and approval from the legislative council or joint budget committee, the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Moving to page 148, you have transfer of funds. This continuation of current language states the Department of Corrections shall provide up to $100,000 annually to fund a deputy prosecutor attorney assigned to prosecutor fences occurring only after the department with the funds transferred to the state central services fund. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Lastly, if you turn to page 149 and 150, you will find carry forward general revenue year and fund balance. This continuation of current language allows the division of correction to carry forward unspeed general revenue funds in the inmate care and custody fund account for accounting gel reimbursements or maintenance needs with the maximum balance of $5 million subject to legislative reporting requirements. Any amount that is over that $5 million goes back to general revenue. The executive recommendation provides for the agency request. Mr. Chair, this concludes the Department of Corrections division of correction requests for special language. We have seen you touch. Mr. Chair, we have the agency if there's still here. Quick question for them. Mr. Chair, I would just recognize yourself. Thank you all for coming down. If you would just direct your attention to page 138 and I'll ask my question. 138. If you go, I'm just curious. How do you define hazardous duty? I thought that would, you know, the job that they do, I mean, what would escalate that would be defined as hazardous duty compensation? Can you explain that to me? So we have different units across the state, as you know, we have about 28 facilities. Some of those facilities we have more violent offenders housed in those facilities like a maximum security unit. Those employees that work in a maximum security unit, they'll get a higher rate of pay with a hazardous duty differential. So they'll get a percentage tacked onto their salary. It doesn't go into their base. It just gets tacked onto their salary. If they leave that position and go to a, I'll say like a right to the unit that's not a higher unit, then that will come off of their salary and they'll just go back to what a normal crush also would get if that makes sense. It does make sense. So basically it's hazardous duty compensation. It's not based on high incident command or hazardous assignment. But that's correct. It's not based on the location in which their assignment takes on whether be one of the maximum prisons or one of the other other ones. Yes, I said so. Just the way it was the wording here hazardous duty, you know, you think of a situation moving from regular duty, then all at once it escalates into something hazardous. I couldn't understand how you could define that. And like I said, I've kind of thought all of this kind of hazardous duty myself, but all right to give a good explanation. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Thank you very much. Senator Hill. Yes, we're just shed a little light on your gap time mobility. Okay, this is say page 138 page 138 members. Yeah. So Senator, your gap time liability. There's a report. And I'll explain what gap time here's in a second, but there's a report in the division of correction where we have that report. I explained it earlier during joint budget committee. If I can find the page, I'll be more than happy to do that. And it shows all of our liabilities within the department. But you have gap time is your time between 40 hours and 46 hours or 47 hours. It's like a six hour gap that you get paid. That's your normal rate of pay. Anything over that 47 hours and 46 hours on a man, which one it is, that's when you start earning overtime. So you'll get time and a half on your salary. Okay. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. Senator Rice. You recognize, sir. Thank you. I've looked over these, but I can't remember which one, but I'll preface one. Say it in the fact that I've never said I was against and I'm not against expanding beds in the department of corrections, but I won't open and transparent way to do it. Is there anything in 136 142 144 or 146? That is anything to do with the Franklin County site. No, sir. This language has been in here since I've been here. Okay. And I've only been back for three years. And I say anything to do. Can it be used? I'm sure it could. I mean, if we, if we create a new facility anywhere in the state of Arkansas, we can use this language to help operations in any of those states. Okay. All right. Let's clarify a little more then. You, you appreciate your honest answer. Because I don't want to bought some upkeep for building and maybe some addition here and there that need to be done. But if we've got a substantial part of money. What I took you to just say with the right vote of the board of corrections. That you can start a project in Franklin County. Is that not what I heard you say? No, sir. I don't, I don't think that is the intent. I don't think I'm asking. That wasn't the intent of my explanation. The intent of my explanation is. Even if we take over another facility in the state like a county jail, we come in to take over a county jail, we can use our current operational money to help fund that jail. I understand that. So my intent wasn't towards Franklin County or anything like that. It was just we have the language in our appropriation and our special language to help assist if a facility comes online in our department. And again, it has been perceived. And I've said perception is reality to many people. And there's been so much misinformation lies in half-truths. Not saying from you, I'm saying in that whole deal. I don't, I don't want this to have any possibility of starting something so that we spent, if you had 75 million, we spent 75 million and we can't turn back now. That's what, that's what people are skittish about. Because everybody wants more beds. They realize we need them. They may not want 3,000 beds. I just want to make sure that we're not going to get duped on this, not from you, but from. Yes, it be. Yes, Senator, I think what we're trying to say is that if a new facility did receive an appropriation, we received specific appropriation for that. We could use these provisions to help allocate our resources there. But unless or until that type of appropriation happens, there's nothing that we can do. I just, I wanted that clarified publicly. Thank you. Okay, any other questions, members? Okay, there's nine items. There's nine items right here. Do I have a motion to approve all nine items? Okay, I have a motion. Senator rise to have a second. Have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Appreciate your explanations. Thank you. Okay, last one that appears like is Department of Agriculture, Mr. Smith. I'm sorry, there's going to be two more. We've got Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources. Thank you. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And one final time, my name is Blake Smith with the BLR and I'll be presenting the Department of Agri Special Language. There's going to be nine items and all of them are continuations. We'll start in volume two, page 152. That's going to be the service change fee waiver. And this language allows the deductions for the constitutional officers funds and state central service funds to be waived from collections of special revenues, those can be anywhere from 1.5 to 4%. You can find a list of those funds starting on page 26 or bebook for a little better breakdown and the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. We'll move on to page 153. It's going to be shared services. This language allows for the creation of payment accounts for the personal services and operating expenses of the Department of Agriculture. And the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. We'll move on to page 154. This is going to be fair fund transfer. This language just allows for the transfer needed to fund fares from the miscellaneous agencies funds to the Agri bear fund on July 1st fiscal year. We'll move on to page 155. This is going to be a fund transfer. This language allows with prior approval of the legislative council or joint budget committee for funds to be transferred between the various animal health funds and poultry and egg grading funds. And the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. We'll move on to page 157. This is a transfer position for pests eradication. If the plant board determines the demands of the pet, the store education efforts require additional personnel expenses with the approval, the chief fiscal state and approval legislative council or joint budget committee appropriations may be transferred from the pests eradication program special item to the line items for regular salaries extra help over time and personal services matching. And the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. We'll go on to page 159. Transfer provision. And this one is going to be broken in a couple of sections. If the state force to commission determines that temporary firefighters dispatchers or pilots are required to meet the demands of a wildfire season appropriations may be transferred from either extra health or professional fees and services for the employment of such personnel. And if the state force to commission determines that the deployment of airtakers for fighting wildfires require additional professional fees and services excess appropriation and regular salaries for personal service matching may be transferred to professional fee services in the operations of forest tree rural community fire protection federal appropriations sections. And finally, if the state force to commission determines that the most effective way for it to operate in growing and distribution of forest planning stock is by contracting work with private vendors and or hiring temporary employees for seasonal work. The commission can transfer the necessary preparation authorized for extra help and maintenance and general operation and the operations and force to rural community fire protection federal appropriations sections and the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. And we'll go down to page 160, which is the refund to expedienture. The letter's language says that the Arizona Forestry Commission may change charge fees to federal agencies and other states to reimburse the commission for expedientures made on behalf of federal agencies and other states and the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. We'll go down to 161. This will be carried forward language. This language allows any funds up to $500,000, which remain in the Department of Agriculture Fund account at the end of the fiscal year will remain in the Department of Action Fund account and be made available to fund appropriation for maintenance and operating costs for wildfire suppression and the purchase of fire suppression equipment for the forestry division and the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. And then we'll go on to page 164. This is reallocation of resources. The secretary of the Department of Agriculture with the approval of the chief fiscal state and legislative council or the joint budget committee meeting and legislation may request to transfer positions between existing business areas of the department up to 5% of the total authorized department positions in any fiscal year. And the executive recommendation provides for the agency request and that concludes my presentation, Mr. Chair. Okay, members, Department of Ag, nine items. Anyone have any questions on any of them? Okay, we had a motion do pass. We have a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay, that motion will carry natural resources. Thank you, Mr. Chair. We'll continue on to natural resources. There's three pieces of language here and there are continuations as well. We'll go on to page 166. This is the transfer position for the NRC. This language authorizes the transfer obligated water sewer and solid waste funds has provided in the appropriation act for the natural resources commission and the appropriation titled water sewer and solid waste dash state from the miscellaneous agency's fund account to the water sewer and solid waste revolving fund and the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. We'll go on to page 167. This is going to be carry forward dash NRC. This authorizes the carry forward of funds to support the amount of obligated grants that are certified by the natural resources commission for matching grants and the appropriation in the second title of water quality plan implementation. And the office of budget shall report to the legislative council all amounts carried forward by the September legislative council or the joint budget committee meeting and the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. And then we'll go on to 169. This is also going to be called carry forward action in NRC. This language allows the use of carry forward funds to support the amount of obligated grants that are certified by the natural resources commission. For water quality technicians in the appropriation entitled water quality plan implementation. And the office of budget shall report to the legislative council or the joint budget committee all amounts carried forward by the September legislative council or the joint budget committee meeting and the executive recommendation provides for the agency request. And there's a quick note that the carry forward of $68,000 under the same language in fiscal year 27. And that concludes my presentation, Mr. Chair. Okay, members, three items for natural resources. Any questions on any of the three? Okay, CNN. I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say aye. Any pose? Okay, that emotional carry. Is there any other business to come before us today? Okay, CNN. We're adjourned. You